Geek Feminism Wiki
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::: Seems like a good idea. [[User:Thayvian|Thayvian]] 06:13, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
:::: Awesome. I shall endeavour to get on that. [[User:Koipond|Koipond]] 09:00, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 
== Moving off Wikia ==
 
To Skud: I know you have been approached about this; puzzlement told me that you're opposed, primarily due to spam protection concerns, but I think that this deserves an open discussion and we're better off leaving Wikia. My primary concerns are intrusive ads in the content area, bloat with useless "features" that actively impede usability, and the streamrolling nature of the changes Wikia makes, over the heads of the users and admins of its hosted wikis.
 
Soon, Wikia is going to roll out a New and Improved skin with even less content space and even more space reserved for clutter. You can see how this very page will look [http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Geek_Feminism_Wiki&useskin=wikia here]. In short, it's eye-searing. Weird choices of colors, large icons in different places, useless "social" cruft that belongs to a site like Facebook more than an informative wiki, fixed width and a huge sidebar that squeezes the actual content into teeny-tiny space.
 
The [[wikia:c:community:Forum:Anti-Wikia Alliance|Anti-Wikia Alliance]] page maintains a list of alternatives and a list of wikis that have switched or plan to switch. [[wikia:c:community:Forum:Anti-Wikia Alliance/declaration_of_independence|This page] lists more reasons to drop Wikia like a hot potato.
 
Spam protection ''is'' a concern, but it's manageable. There are different possible options. [http://shoutwiki.com Shoutwiki] is a leaner, meaner alternative to Wikia; it has some of the same drawbacks as Wikia (namely, ads and a subdomain), but at least it doesn't force a custom bloated skin and uses Monobook (still customizable with CSS). For spam protection, they [http://www.shoutwiki.com/wiki/ShoutWiki_features#Anti-spam_measures have CAPTCHAs and a hidden input field]. Their technical support stuff also gives me the impression of being friendlier and less uptight than Wikia's.
 
Another option would be hosting a MediaWiki installation on geekfeminism.org. That would require us to install anti-spam tools ourselves, but it's completely doable, and there are many owners of standalone MediaWiki sites to ask for help with setting those measures up.
 
One drawback that I see is that the Wikia-hosted site will remain here, and will outrank the new one in search engines, at least for now. At least on geekfeminism.org, links can be updated everywhere to point to the new wiki. - [[User:Sikon|Sikon]] 09:13, October 14, 2010 (UTC)