I made a couple edits. First, I renamed the page, changing "cisgendered" to "cisgender". Grammatically and politically, th latter is better since it doesn't imply that some external force "cisgenders" (or "transgenders") people. It's something you are, not something that's done to you.
I removed the reference to "genetically determined gender" since that's a highly problematic concept, and what's really at stake is assigned gender at birth (generally, infants aren't routinely karyotyped at birth; doctors assign gender based on outward appearance, which often isn't easily predictable from karotype.)
Also, the phrasing as-is doesn't really apply to trans men (I've never met a trans man who thought of himself as "part-time" and then moved to thinking of himself as "full-time"), and possibly not to non-binary people either. I'm not attempting to do anything about that right now; just pointing it out. Monadic 08:39, August 1, 2011 (UTC)
The (ft) (cl) thing is really confusing, yeah; I was thinking "what, closeted trans folk don't hear humour directed against their gender?". 18.104.22.168 20:24, November 11, 2011 (UTC)
ft / cl / bin
I'm wondering if there's a less confusing way to organize the page -- I'm losing track of whether "(ft)..." means "this is a privilege that FT trans people" (as well as, presumably, cis people) have, or "this is a privilege that trans people who haven't yet voiced themselves" (as well as, presumably, cis people) have.
Also, the "full-time / part-time" division doesn't really describe all trans people's experience. Monadic 22:37, May 13, 2012 (UTC)
+1 this is confusing. "(cl) You get to use a toilet without feeling like you're in the wrong place." What does this mean? A male bodied closeted trans woman who presents as a man can use... the men's bathroom... without feeling out of place? I am unable to guess what this is supposed to mean. 22.214.171.124 20:37, June 20, 2013 (UTC)
- I also find it confusing, but I'm not sure I have a solution. Azurelunatic 22:54, May 13, 2012 (UTC)