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== Concerns ==
 
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''The discussion here (excerpt: "... geek feminism wiki ... feel s like someone is tying a rope to the past and present to make it harder to move forward.") is a [[Feminism 101 discussions|101 discussion]] and has been moved to [[User talk:84.74.106.21]]'' [[User:Thayvian|Thayvian]] 10:16, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
I think women and men should have the same opportunities, and I think that the IT world (among others) still has some ways to go to make that happen.
 
 
While I am sometimes taken aback by too much activism in this direction, and while I think that it’s important to steer clear of separatism (highlighting differences in the process of trying to create equal opportunity), I generally support every reasonable effort in this direction. By reasonable, I mean that it should not go further than the goal.
 
 
The geek feminism wiki makes me pretty uneasy, and feels like someone is tying a rope to the past and present to make it harder to move forward.
 
 
Under the assumption that most people would like to move forward towards an equal-opportunity community, how does keeping meticulous track of all the problems of the past and present help?
 
 
What about the girl entering the community without any predispositions who encounters this site?
 
 
— martin f. krafft <madduck ät madduck.net> http://madduck.net
 
 
PS: I will not subscribe to this site and appreciate a short message for noteworthy replies.
 
 
:Should we dump the comment since he's not going to see anything anyway? This is probably a case for the [http://finallyfeminism101.wordpress.com/ Feminism101] blog anyway. [[User:Koipond|Koipond]] 05:33, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
 
 
::I see things, maybe after people tell me about it. — martin f. krafft <madduck ät madduck.net> http://madduck.net
 
 
:::So you did check back. Didn't know if that would happen or not. This isn't the place for teaching about why this is important, that's why there's a link to the feminism 101 blog. [[User:Koipond|Koipond]] 09:52, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
 
   
 
== Cleaning up the Gaming Section ==
 
== Cleaning up the Gaming Section ==

Revision as of 10:16, 19 August 2009

I didn't like the old logo for this and replaced it with the girl in robotux, I hope that's ok. I think it sends a nicer message :) Piawaugh 21:22, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Works for me! --Skud 02:09, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Uh, as far as I am aware, that logo is (a) copyright Valerie Aurora Henson and (b) only licenced by Val for use in LinuxChix circumstances, see http://www.linuxchix.org/linuxchix-logo.html I don't see that we can use it here without her express permission. And even if we did I am not sure LinuxChix would be thrilled (it's their logo after all, not a multipurpose women-geek logo), although their displeasure doesn't have legal force that I'm aware of. I'll check in with Val. Thayvian 06:21, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
For reference the old logo was Image:Whack.gif Thayvian 06:27, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
I've checked with Val, and she has released it CC BY-SA. So that angle is sorted. I will update the image upload. Thayvian 03:26, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

General todo

Maybe we need some kind of Village Pump (Wikipedia equivalent) for general site discussions? Meanwhile, I'll stick a potential topic here: the old "I don't see gender"/"aren't you the sexists here, saying women want different things from men?" etc etc angle. Or is that too Feminism 101? Can we come up with a geek specific aspect to it? (FLOSSPOLS did describe the geek mindset as particularly individualistic and skeptical of claims that individuals are influenced by culture.) Thayvian 07:05, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Re: a forum, yes, I think the time has come. Wikia has some facilities for setting up forums here. I'll see to it. One of the things I think we need to do in relation to that is change the "welcome" message that comes out, laying out guidelines etc. I'll see what I can come up with and let you know. Re: common myths, yeah, maybe a Myths page? I don't think it's too 101 at all, though I do think that links to the "finally, a feminism 101 blog" would be appropriate. It would be easy to give geek examples for the most common myths. --Skud 19:09, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
Forums: IMHO, having tried them out a bit, the forums are a PITA and I don't like them. I vote we use the Community Portal's "Talk" page for general discussions. We can archive off threads onto their own pages as they need it. --Skud 19:57, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Concerns

The discussion here (excerpt: "... geek feminism wiki ... feel s like someone is tying a rope to the past and present to make it harder to move forward.") is a 101 discussion and has been moved to User talk:84.74.106.21 Thayvian 10:16, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Cleaning up the Gaming Section

Question. Should I sit down and make a cleaner Gaming section? Stick a larger gaming splash page and then link to the existing other pages? Koipond 05:33, 19 August 2009 (UTC)